Monday, October 10, 2005

Pak-Kashmir-India-Quake

Last night I got talking to KAy, a brilliant, absolutely brilliant, photographer and thinker from Pakistan. It's she and her circle, and their blogs which surprise me. That hello... normal, cool, just-like-us people exist out there too. Peple who go to fantastic looking colleges, wear the trendiest of clothes, speak and write good english, think that their politicians are fuck ups, detest corruption and the slums.
They're just like us.
She had posted (in her own unique style) about the quake. I commented and it came out without much thinking: "It's high time Pakistan saw this upclose and personal."
She took a little bit of offense at that, rightfully.
Well, like I said, they're just like us. Proud of their country, of their flag, can't hear a word against it.
But honestly, I don't hate Muslims or Pakistan. But somewhere, deep down, whether we admit to it or not, ever, Pakistan has caused us pain, does make every Indian angry when they slyly creep into our borders to kill and try to conquer.
Sure, you can't blame everyone for it. Most people living in there are normal just like you and me who stay away from the borders, the politics.
But still, I don't know about you, it somehow pinches me when I see a Pakistani being so proud of being a Pakistani. Get my point?
After all, Pakistan was a part of India man. And that too not very long ago.
KAy wrote: "no i dont believe india and pakistan could ever be one and no i don't believe they could have stayed One nation. it is humanly impossible for two countires with such huge religious differences to remain ONE nation.We cannot compromise on our month of sacrafise and slaughter cows ...something Hindus WORSHIP. understandably there HAD to be a need for seperation because even if we WERE tolerant how tolerant can EVERYONE be? some Hindu is bound to get pissed off at the slaughtering and some Muslim is bound to react to that reaction ....there is ultimatley more peace in doing what we do in our own countries rather than despising eachother on the same soil."
Well, before we both stayed together, didn't we? We were at peace. Both sides respected each other's beliefs and religions. Sure, there were a few grudges, a few fights, but hell, we were united. Until the Britishers put a little bit of fuel in the middle - the divide and rule policy.
I once said, I am not the wall that divides. I am a crack in that wall. I maintain it. And somehow, I feel really strongly that Allah's with me on this one.
He probably just shook the Pakistan-Kashmir wall up a little.
I'm sad for those who had to die - the innocent kids, the poor men and women. But, it was inevitable.
When a change as big as this suddenly begins, disaster is bound to be part of it.

20 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

god or allah doesnt interfere in human workings..and u are far too idealistic more then that and far worse like most people you think the most useless and superficial things ,like there being one country or two ,will have a real impact on our lives.It really doesn't matter
if pakistan and india are one country or two.And pak invading india is a very small issue ,which first of all our own mind(at our own level) and the politician(for a society)makes into a really big issue.People would still be dying of hungr and pathetic living conditions and complete ignornace and stupidity and not to mention a life of apathy, either way.It is a non issue really.If u really think about it.so pak invades india,conquers or whtever a few square feet of land kills a few ppl (more ppl die on a daily basis from hunger)..and frankly you cannot know if it would have been good or not,it is never possible to estimate such things,every person on a totally arbitrary basis takes up one end of teh argument and thinks it to death..it might have been that muslims and hindus mite have warred ceaselessly and mite have been the total converse..you can never predict how things pan out..life is just a process of balancing out results of previuos choices made,all alernatives of that choice would have needed a balancing so it doesnt really matter...things that have to happen on their own.cause they never happen from a thoughtfull mind(which only comes into the picture when the balance has to be created) but from a impusive mind.

October 10, 2005 1:28 PM  
Blogger Once the Conman said...

Couldn't read the entire thing, Got bored somewhere in the third and fourth sentence. You came across as someone who does not have a stand on anything. Basically the kinds that I'd step on without even noticing. So go play Ludo or somein.

October 10, 2005 1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i doubt u are intelligent enough to see the stand i am taking.
Thre is no point in taking a stand just for the sake of taking one.Whne i need to make a choice i will take a stand.

October 10, 2005 1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

but i wil know too,that the stand is only temporary.I think every oen is keen on taking a stand,is why we are all so miserable.The hindues and muslims who fight,is cause they have taken a stand,the VHP and the al qaeda to take a stand.

October 10, 2005 1:48 PM  
Blogger Adnan Farooq Hashmi said...

You really expect me to believe that you feel sed for the loss of life in Pakistan. You are not a crack in the wall, you are a crack in the head.

October 10, 2005 1:52 PM  
Blogger Once the Conman said...

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October 10, 2005 2:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are just a deluded guy,if there was anything more to you ,you wouldn't be sitting here and defending your self to every post and writing about things u intend to do and never do.You are all talk and no action.as much as you liek to think about changing this world you don't seem to have half an iota of insight into your self leave alone the capacity to transform your self .Just a guy caught up in his own thinking.And you seem to be the kind of guy who makes lot of people around him miserable all in the name of being honest when really u are just at the mercy of your impulses,and no compassion when u are in immidiate contact with people yet you seem to dream about a happy lot of people.Its easier isn't it when you dream it all up for the whole of humanity but incapable conveying it to just one person.Totally at the mercy of your impulses that you are.
Yeah you are a dreamer,and that's all you are.A guy on a hallucinatory trip.

October 10, 2005 4:00 PM  
Blogger Once the Conman said...

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October 10, 2005 4:05 PM  
Blogger Once the Conman said...

http://qatardiary.blogspot.com/2005/10/clear-up-post.html
Please refer to this post you choots.

October 10, 2005 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who are u trying to convince?

October 10, 2005 9:10 PM  
Blogger Adi Oso-Groot Finch said...

sorry for putting it here but what happened to cowlick's blog? its giving 404!!

October 10, 2005 9:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have just one small comment for u gadarene GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT.

October 11, 2005 1:48 AM  
Blogger Norma Kassim PhD said...

honestly..u guys, stop the arguments..many people are hurt there in pakistan..i have lived my whole life in Malaysia alongside indians, pakistanis, chinese, few other different nationalities..i have not felt the slightest itch on my back or sick in my chest..never mind the different religion or races..it is God's earth not ours..

October 11, 2005 3:49 AM  
Blogger Casablanca said...

I have met several pakistanis, and am good friends with them. The first thing that struck me as well was "gosh, they are so like us". Language, culture, ideas... they are the closest you can find, to Indians.
So let the fanatics and politicians be.. but the average pakistani is just that - an average guy on the street. As average as you and me.

October 11, 2005 5:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't think there's a word like britisher... it's briton....

October 11, 2005 8:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thats' true,that's what politcians do.but i am not sure the laymen in india would be to willing to give up some of kasmir either.
and why do people fight life long battles over something as miniscule as boundaries,here it is not even so much a question of identity,though even thaht is a miniscule issue.man wasting 55 years squabbling over a piece of land is a wste of time that allah or who ever has given us..

October 11, 2005 11:17 AM  
Blogger the transient twilight said...

Conman- I am seriously wondering, why people don't read your blog as "your blog"- why do they comment like it's their blog? this is a problem even I face- writers are meant to be "understood" at worst and "interpreted" at best.... they are not meant to be rewritten- and people don't seem to be able to accept that.

October 11, 2005 1:37 PM  
Blogger Once the Conman said...

Anonymous: Don't challenge my English... not today, not ever...

Quoting The English Dictionary.

"BRITISHER

n : a native or inhabitant of Great Britain [syn: Britisher, Briton, Brit]"

October 11, 2005 2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually if u've lived in britain u'd know that "britisher" is not really an acceptable word... and don't really want to challenge yr "english" as you call your pretty pedestrian and punjabified writing!

October 11, 2005 5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conman - yes, I support you here - with the word- Britisher - I wonder why people don't get their knowledge straight before commenting on the rest of the world. - teh transient twilight.

October 11, 2005 8:29 PM  

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